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mpmorris

USA
1295 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2017 :  00:20:35  Show Profile  Visit mpmorris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
-Great -I'd like to hear Kip's report. It would be nice "if it what it appears to be"

M.
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mtrei

USA
3739 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2017 :  01:14:32  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by abl567

According to this thread

http://m-100.co/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8316&SearchTerms=bundt,wheel,option

It was October 1969



I realize that contradicting Paul is fraught with peril, but according to the German club it was August 1970.



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AgSilver

USA
207 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2017 :  10:41:35  Show Profile  Visit AgSilver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Never thought about the "brake cooling problem" associated with the steel wheels. The bundt design certainly moves air over the rotors as evidenced by the rapid buildup of brake dust on the wheels.

Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Niederheimbach, Germany
300SEL 6.3
E55K AMG
CLK63 AMG Gone
Ferrari 400GTC4 Gone
ML400CDI BiTurbo
ML350 CDI BT
9146GT
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4193 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2017 :  10:47:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

http://5komma6.mercedes-benz-passion.com/der-w126-damals/innovationen/geschmiedete-leichtmetallfelgen/
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asw

Sweden
9 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2017 :  12:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Strange, the position of the fan and compressor switchknobs for the airco seems reversed
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olliw109

Germany
382 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2017 :  17:08:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello, As far as I can c from the pics there are numerous mismatches incl. engine. Would not believe what this dealer tells me. Undercarriage shows several tacho-rounds and needs a lot of attention/work. Rubbers to be renewed. That is normal but takes time and expertise.
Probably needs the same money for measures provided engine is intact.
To me not too good as a starter but have a close look.

300 SEL 6.3 3478+5327
Oliver
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desidon

20 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2017 :  22:23:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by olliw109

Hello, As far as I can c from the pics there are numerous mismatches incl. engine. Would not believe what this dealer tells me. Undercarriage shows several tacho-rounds and needs a lot of attention/work. Rubbers to be renewed. That is normal but takes time and expertise.
Probably needs the same money for measures provided engine is intact.
To me not too good as a starter but have a close look.

300 SEL 6.3 3478+5327
Oliver



Hi... Can you pls share more details on the engine mismatch?
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KipF

USA
90 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2017 :  00:46:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by desidon



I have requested kip to take a look at it if he can this weekend.
I also spoke to the dealer and he said the car was recently servived at a Mercedes dealer.
The dealer does not know much about this model but says that the suspension has been sitting up for the 10 plus days that he has had the car for what it's worth.

I asked the dealer what he is basing his pricing on and he said this is a rust free 2 owner California car and mentioned that the answer lies somewhere between 40 - 50k...




Check your PM and/or email. I sent you a message earlier. I'd like to talk to you before going over there.

Kip

1966 230SL
1969 300SEL #1703
1985 300TD
1990 350SDL
1992 500E
1993 500E
2002 SL500
2008 GL320 CDI
2009 GL320 BT - SOLD
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desidon

20 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2017 :  02:08:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KipF

quote:
Originally posted by desidon



I have requested kip to take a look at it if he can this weekend.
I also spoke to the dealer and he said the car was recently servived at a Mercedes dealer.
The dealer does not know much about this model but says that the suspension has been sitting up for the 10 plus days that he has had the car for what it's worth.

I asked the dealer what he is basing his pricing on and he said this is a rust free 2 owner California car and mentioned that the answer lies somewhere between 40 - 50k...




Check your PM and/or email. I sent you a message earlier. I'd like to talk to you before going over there.

Kip

1966 230SL
1969 300SEL #1703
1985 300TD
1990 350SDL
1992 500E
1993 500E
2002 SL500
2008 GL320 CDI
2009 GL320 BT - SOLD



Hi Kip...I cannot find where to check messages or email on this forum.
Can you pls text me at 469-447-8607
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asw

Sweden
9 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2017 :  02:09:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As Oliver was saying there seems to be an engine mismatch in that there is no vacuum advance line to the distributor, for instance. This type of distributor was fitted to US cars from 1970 and onwards as part of emissions regulation. The speed relays that normally came with this are not there though - as appropriate for a 1969 car. There might be other explanations for the missing vacuum line maybe associated with switch to an electronically controlled ignition of sorts. On the sticker to the intake manifold i think I can barely read "while vacuum line is ...", and this would indicate a pre-1970 engine which might be important in a US car.

Regards

Anders
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mpmorris

USA
1295 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2017 :  15:28:42  Show Profile  Visit mpmorris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I noticed there is what appears to be and ignition amplifier mounted in front so it is possible someone modified the distributor --and this car would not have had the rpm relays (black boxes). That said, in comparison again to that ivory car (which needs nothing other than the original spare put back)in the $70k's (too much in my opinion), this silver car is not priced right if indeed the car has an excess of 100k miles (which I assume it does given the undercarriage condition and the mismatched pieces). A well cared for car just doesn't look like that.









Edited by - mpmorris on 09/05/2017 10:55:25
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KipF

USA
90 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2017 :  19:38:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an appointment to see it Tuesday morning. If all goes well with that and the purchaser is able to negotiate a fair price, I'll get it to Matt for a PPI. The seller said he'd be agreeable to that, which I take as a good sign and nothing to hide. I noticed the amplifier as well and wondered why that would have been done. The seller is going to see if he can find the service records for it. He wasn't sure if they came with the car or not. It's interesting that they tout the last owner being a longtime M-100 member yet no one here seems to know this car.

1966 230SL
1969 300SEL #1703
1985 300TD
1990 350SDL
1992 500E
1993 500E
2002 SL500
2008 GL320 CDI
2009 GL320 BT - SOLD
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AgSilver

USA
207 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2017 :  23:47:45  Show Profile  Visit AgSilver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There is no California data emission plate which was required from 1970 on, so it is probably a 1969 model year even without the beehive turn signals. The throttle body appears to have the correct plug in the vacuum line connection. That large electronic ignition box is an antique and I suspect the distributor still has the dual points setup.

Test drive it at night if possible.

Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Niederheimbach, Germany
300SEL 6.3
E55K AMG
CLK63 AMG Gone
Ferrari 400GTC4 Gone
ML400CDI BiTurbo
ML350 CDI BT
9146GT
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Art Love

Australia
6138 Posts

Posted - 09/03/2017 :  03:34:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeeez, your US cars are full of add ons and thingamajigs that make life difficult!! It is far simpler over here in the antipodes. #2340 is a mid 1969 build. First car off the production line in 1970 was about #3674.

Worth taking a torch and checking if the motor number is about what it should be for the chassis, even if the data card is not available. That would, at least, give a clue about how "original" the motor might be if the seller can't get the service records. It is often not easy when a car is pushing 50 years old and I think that has to be accepted. A nice shiny paint job can hide a multitude of sins, but I would not be too critical. It looks pretty tidy overall for its age. It is the same colour combination as my #765 which I find attractive. Makes no sense why the dealer has tan leather in the overall description when it is obviously black and described as such in the detailed description.
Art
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olliw109

Germany
382 Posts

Posted - 09/03/2017 :  05:53:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I am afraid I saw/bought too many of those.
Check the body carefully and make, if possible, a pressure-loss-test(?) with the Engine. Clarifying that gives you comfort about this Investment-opportunity.

300 SEL 6.3 3478+5327
Oliver
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