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MercFan

USA
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Posted - 07/28/2013 :  14:51:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have an idea which VIN corresponds to the only factory-built SWB Landaulet?
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  14:59:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
100.015-12-xxxxxx for LHD
100.015-22-xxxxxx for RHD


Oups, did not read carefully enough.

Graf von Berckheim : 100.015-12-000830 ..

the 12th build Landaulet !!!




Edited by - paul-NL on 07/28/2013 15:25:12
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MercFan

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  15:05:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Paul.
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Chris Johnson

USA
3751 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  15:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The original 600 book by Wiedmaier & Knetsch states that this car remained in the original family's possession, and was cared for by Kienle. This would have been current as of about the year 2000.

Whether Kienle might come up with any info on this is unknown, but it may not hurt to ask!

Chris Johnson
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MercFan

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  15:09:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the late 1970s I visited New York City, and I remember seeing in Manhattan a 6-door 600 Pullman in a light green color. The car definitely was the 6-door Pullman because it had outside door handles for the middle doors. I took pictures of the car, but I don't know where I have them. When I find them, I'll try to post them.
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  15:14:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as I know, that car is now in hands of Graf von Berckheim's Son and was "restored", which means that the Original handicap-features for driving by that in an accident handicaped first owner were removed.

Difference of pictures "before and after the restauration" can be seen by the style of the wheelcaps = after restauration it has the larger ones.





@ MercFan: Now it gets time you dig us up that picture from that 6door

Edited by - paul-NL on 07/28/2013 15:22:25
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  15:40:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote




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MercFan

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  16:35:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris,

Speaking of the Wiedmaier & Knetsch book, is there a listing here within the M100 message board (or elsewhere) of literature on the 600? I do have the Wiedmaier & Knetsch book. I also have the Brooklands book on Mercedes S and 600 1965-1972, and the book Mercedes-Benz 600 by Heribert Hofner. Are there other good books on the 600?

Thanks,
Dan
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Chris Johnson

USA
3751 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  18:46:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is the followup book by Wiedmaier, about twice as thick as the original book, though, in my opinion, it is not as good a book as the original.

I think it was Art that recently posted here (please forgive me if I am wrong!) that the price on this second book had been reduced to clear out the remaining inventory. If you do a board search on Wiedmaier, his post should pop up easily.

I am not aware of any other books of this type that are dedicated solely to the 600, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. My shelf space for coffee table books is limited. However, there is a ton of excellent data in the factory workshop manual, and I know you've already been going through the Tech Data books. Once you decide it's time to get into the nitty-gritty stuff, there are three different editions of the 600 factory parts books. I spend more time in the Edition B and Edition C parts books than all the other books combined.

The only way I know to learn even more about these cars is to physically put your hands on them, work on them, troubleshoot them, take them apart and put them back together. Then you will know what was left out, or was wrong, in all those books.

Chris Johnson
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Art Love

Australia
6139 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2013 :  23:53:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you go to the Home Page of this website and look up to the right top corner, you will see 600 6.3 6.9. If you click on the 600, you will find a list of books, articles, etc. that relate to the 600. Some of them are quite good reading.
Art
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retrodave111

United Kingdom
112 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2013 :  04:38:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Johnson

The original 600 book by Wiedmaier & Knetsch states that this car remained in the original family's possession, and was cared for by Kienle. This would have been current as of about the year 2000.

Whether Kienle might come up with any info on this is unknown, but it may not hurt to ask!

Chris Johnson



i was once shown around kienle's workshop and showroom, and the short wheel base was in the showroom in all it's glory, it was a few years ago, but can't remember what year

just one 600 is enough at the moment, [now it's got to two]and now a 47,000 mile 6.3
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MercFan

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2013 :  14:10:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
600 Pullman on eBay in Atlanta, Georgia, USA
1977 4-door Pullman with picture of data card
VIN 10001412002508

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Other-4-door-Pullman-Mercedes-600-Pullman-Long-Wheel-Base-/330984732833?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d103a38a1&vxp=mtr#ht_5636wt_2004
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2013 :  15:02:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you,

is now added in my registery.
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MercFan

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2013 :  01:02:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just received the latest issue of "Classic Mercedes" put out by the same people who put out "Mercedes Enthusiast." On page 6 there is an ad of Avantgarde, a classic car dealership in the UK. They advertise a blue swb 1966 600. Is this car part of the identified cars? The dealership's web site is: www.avantgardecars.co.uk

MercFan
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MercFan

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2013 :  01:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The magazine I mentioned in my post above, the Autumn 2013 issue of "Classic Mercedes" has 21 pages dedicated to the 600 on its 50th anniversary. It also has an article on Crayford in which the Crayford-built 600 Pullman Landaulet and 3 armored 600s are mentioned.
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