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BenzWorkShop

Ireland
15 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  10:33:57  Show Profile  Visit BenzWorkShop's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello Paul, here's another one from Ireland, I dont believe you have it one the database,

Chassis 100.012-22-001336




Should have some better pictures in a few weeks when the weather (and the car) improves !
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2012 :  12:54:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice, nice, indeed a new one for us

please don't forget new pictures.

Thank you very much for your help.
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BenzWorkShop

Ireland
15 Posts

Posted - 02/28/2012 :  12:07:18  Show Profile  Visit BenzWorkShop's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I hope to get it running in the next month or so and then we can get it cleaned and photo'd properly, which I will forward to you Paul.
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retrodave111

United Kingdom
112 Posts

Posted - 02/28/2012 :  14:19:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi ben, have you got one now, or is it a job, dave

just one 600 is enough at the moment
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BenzWorkShop

Ireland
15 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  07:39:42  Show Profile  Visit BenzWorkShop's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Dave, its not mine its a job. This is another one I now work on. There were only 4 600's registered from new in Ireland, most have now left and others have been imported. One of the best cars, restored by Karl Middelhauve and registered here as PZO 200 is now owned by a Club member in the UK. I worked on it for the previous 2 owners.

I have been following your own exploits Dave, how is it going ?
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retrodave111

United Kingdom
112 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  14:23:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
still waiting for the car to come back from the bodyshop, i don't think it will be on the road this year, i also looked at a 46,000 miles 6.3 yesterday, so i may buy that aswell

just one 600 is enough at the moment
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  14:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Dave,

Please, give me some data and pics for our 6.3 registery .....
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retrodave111

United Kingdom
112 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  14:44:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi paul, i have no details, if i buy the car i will let you know, dave

just one 600 is enough at the moment
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  20:24:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HOW DO THEY DO IT ?????

Found some new pictures, offered as a 1969-car:









What do we see in those pictures ??
That car has square outermirrors: > 001027
That car carries also the oldstyle hubcaps: < 001482

This car has flat headlightglasses which indicates a Vin above 002293, and does not fit with our first conclusions.
So the headlightglasses seems to be not original









This car has no Nackenrollen but later style headrests: > 001132









Here we can see, that this car is build with US-specifications ( Code 491). Note the DEFROST-shield.
But on the speedo is to read, that it has a KM-scale.
Also that car has build in a later style Becker and has seatheating in the front (mostlikely later added ??)
Additional an Telephone is fitted (also seems from a later datum)
But this car has no sidemarkers ... So it is most probably an car from Switserland.





Here is to see that the car has no "hydraulic kit" but a "first aid kit" mounted. No further indications about the Vin.





If you look carefully, then you can see mounted the black boxes, which appeared first on Vin 1435 (until Vin 1920).

*******
So then finaly we know that the car has to be between VIN 001434 and VIN 001482.
We now also know it is not build for the US-market. So we can eliminate the Vin for the US-market and the already identified cars.
If we do so, then we can tell, that the car must have one of the next Vins:

1438 - 1440 - 1443 - 1445 - 1447 - 1449 - 1450 - 1453 - 1463 - 1470 - 1471 - 1475 - 1478 or 1479.

Now the hunt is on for the right exact number .......

THAT'S "how they do it"

Edited by - paul-NL on 03/02/2012 20:59:59
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mtrei

USA
3739 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  07:41:10  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Paul, I think you're reading too much into what parts are on the car. A place like Kienle has a large inventory of 600 parts, and when they are restoring a car they can just install what ever fits. Things like the hubcaps and mirror could easily have been changed.
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2012 :  09:54:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Art Love

Paul,
I find it interesting that there does not appear to be a "prototype" RHD car. The first RHD in your list is #78. I would have expected them to have made one early to sort out the "bugs". I know these are the ones you have pictures of. Do you have an earlier RHD chassis that you don't have a picture of?
Art



I was lucky to find a PRE-production PROTOTYPE RHD: "W100/12"





Also some figures.
Total build RHD: 342
126 for GreatBrittan 9-42-10-7-10-7-11-12-4-5-3-4-0-1-1-0-0
15 for South Africa 2-0-0-3-1-3-4-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
88 for Australia 1-18-11-20-15-8-7-7-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
2 for New Guinea one in 1970 and one 1972
1 for New Zeeland one in 1970.

This overview states also that Vin 100-012-22-000080 was the first and ONLY car in 1964 to Australia delivered ...

Edited by - paul-NL on 03/14/2012 17:31:36
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2012 :  17:27:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have now the Kienle car identified.

The most things I concluded were right, but some were not.

I thought, that the missing sidemarkers and the european headlights, this car could be an Swiss car with US-specs.
Also the overview of the Vin showed no antracite US car with grey leather available in that period. The numbers I mentioned were pretty tight. Only the car is eighter resprayed from 124 arabergrey to 172 antracite OR Kienle calls the colours falls ..
So that's the reason I could not puzzle the car together with in the (not complete) data I had from the US-cars.
Also the removed sidemarkers made this extra difficult, because cars oboven 1435 should have then with the blackboxes up to Vin 001920.

The right Vin now is the US-Vin 001467
Slowly we are getting up ......
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Art Love

Australia
6139 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2012 :  18:07:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That RHD test car has the chrome air vent behind the rear window in front of the trunk. Hard to see in the low res photo here, but clearly seen in the high res Paul sent me.
Art
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Ron B

Australia
11545 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2012 :  17:58:57  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wonder who bought the 600 in New Zealand ?? .Mercedes were not a common sight in those days and a 600 would have stuck out like dogsballs.

quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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paul-NL

Netherlands
4194 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2012 :  18:36:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was there a company "Britisch Steel" located in new Zeeland in that period ???
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