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Craig Tucker

Australia
654 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2012 :  07:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suspect that the rules at the time required full, "factory", interiors.....hense the cheapest, lightest seats etc. All these cars pictured were built to race and not neccessarily for the road. As Art has previously stated, (MB were not averse to massarging/bending the rules); NO production 6.3 block can actually be bored to 6.8 litres....

C.T.

1969 300SEL 6.3 (to be AMG 6.8 replica) #1268
1971 300SEL 6.3 #5713
1970 600 SWB #1692
1993 300E-24
1959 220SE Ponton #9500929
1983 Schuler 5.0lt Range Rover

Edited by - Craig Tucker on 01/21/2012 07:24:13
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Art Love

Australia
4769 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2012 :  17:11:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it is the Waxenberger/Ahrens car, it is NOT Wax driving it - far too short even allowing for the funny seat.
Art
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mtrei

USA
3316 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2012 :  19:27:47  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Art Love

If it is the Waxenberger/Ahrens car, it is NOT Wax driving it - far too short even allowing for the funny seat.


Art, I was thinking about the lower pic. The top pic is clearly the #5 Aaltonen/Glemser car. Ironically, it was Glemser in a Ford Capri that beat the red AMG car for the win at Spa in 1971.

Edited by - mtrei on 01/20/2012 19:32:22
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MHenderson

Australia
145 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2012 :  19:46:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ron B

...I think the really weird thing is crank up windows.. how many 6.3's came with that? or were these really early 300's souped up? (ex m189 powered)



I looked ar an "Ex-M189" 300SEL here in Melbourne a few months back, that had legitimate factory paperwork, explaining that it had been a "6.3 test car" then had the 6.3 removed, a 3.5 installed, then sold to a private buyer...allegedly, he was a German Engineer in Melbourne, who had spent some time in Germany "with some of his old Engineer buddies that worked at Benz"???????

300 SEL 6.3 # 2462
300 SEL 6.3 # 0953

Elegant Brutality
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Ron B

Australia
10169 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2012 :  20:08:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the first one was built from a car that had been sent back after an accident for examination. I wonder if you get some more info on that car?

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12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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Martin L

Australia
95 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2012 :  21:09:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure if this has been tagged before.

There are some great pics on this facebook page of the recreation of a Rote Sau by Autoservice Drowatsky.

Here is a link to their facebook page http://www.facebook.com/RoteSau

A link to Autoservice Drowatzky site http://autoservice-drowatzky.de/index.html
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Craig Tucker

Australia
654 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2012 :  10:08:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any body else seen leather like this???



C.T.

1969 300SEL 6.3 (to be AMG 6.8 replica) #1268
1971 300SEL 6.3 #5713
1970 600 SWB #1692
1993 300E-24
1959 220SE Ponton #9500929
1983 Schuler 5.0lt Range Rover
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paul-NL

Netherlands
3109 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2012 :  10:34:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.m-100.cc/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5629
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mtrei

USA
3316 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2012 :  15:11:56  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Craig Tucker

Any body else seen leather like this???


Clearly an upholsterer took a car with "clubsessel" style velour, and tried to replicate the pattern in leather. You can see that the door panels are still velour.
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paul-NL

Netherlands
3109 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  19:01:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paul-NL

The Vin of the famous replica from the Rote Sau is now known .....
and ready to send in for the registery ....



Some high resolution pictures at Spa Francorchamps are already send in to Anthony Long for eventual using in the Lode Star



interior belonging to that one above:




Now turns out that there is build an second "rote Sau", which is partial different from the earlier. That second car has french wallnut dashwood and missing the "plastic rail" on the wood.
Also the second one has headrests on the front seats. It is build from an US-car. Vin now also known for the registery.












Edited by - paul-NL on 03/10/2012 23:52:39
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Art Love

Australia
4769 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2012 :  00:26:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There will soon be enough of them to run a race
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WiSeGuYY

Egypt
3 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2012 :  08:24:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
very interesting indeed , i'm not alone out there who love that sau

TAREK
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mtrei

USA
3316 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2012 :  14:40:17  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ron B

the first one was built from a car that had been sent back after an accident for examination.


Waxenberger said that he original car was a black W112 coupe.
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WiSeGuYY

Egypt
3 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2012 :  16:29:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Strange remark from RONB , the w111/112 is diff from the w108/109 which run the SPA and copied later.

REGARDS

TAREK

TAREK
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Ron B

Australia
10169 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2012 :  18:42:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WiSeGuYY

Strange remark from RONB , the w111/112 is diff from the w108/109 which run the SPA and copied later.

REGARDS

TAREK

TAREK


Which remark was that? . According to what I have heard,the first 300SEL with a 6.3 was a near new car that had been returned to the factory for evaluation and repair after an accident. The engine was placed into it to see how it would work,after hours .
As it was Waxls Birthday recently it was mentioned on the MVC website, and a short history of some of his M100 powered projects was listed including the W113 .

quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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