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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  08:04:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Hamburger friend bought the austrian 6.3 from Werner Mitteregger # 5721.

Now is the question which wood was used.
I know it is named "quilted", but which kind of wood is that ??
Does anybody know and can help.







Art Love

Australia
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  08:13:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike Trei will know when he gets up tomorrow.
Art
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mtrei

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  13:09:11  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Art Love

Mike Trei will know when he gets up tomorrow.



LOL!!

Drew and I saw another German restored car with similar looking wood, probably done by the same guy. I'm going to guess maple, with a light brown tint or stain added. It certainly didn't come out of the factory looking like that.
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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  13:17:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No that car seems to have ORIGINAL wood.
I drove that car and it was in an perfect original condition, like new.
The fotocar has a blue interior, but the driven car a green.

It is MOST unlikely that those european cars are made by the same guy ........

But "maple" will help

I will advice him to get a copy of the datacard.

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mtrei

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  14:12:22  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The car I saw was the one with the green interior. Somewhere I have pictures.

What makes you sure it's original, other than the word of the seller? In the picture you posted that shows the back of the glove box door, it looks like it has a glossy finish. Original Mercedes wood had a matt finish on the back of the door from 1967.
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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  15:05:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't take any word from a seller or buyer . The way the glovebox was made from one piece wood without any vineer, brought me to thoughts that it has to be original.

But what you are thinking, that the backside of the glovebox was always without a glossy finish, I will check in my 600. I never noticed that the backface was different from the front.
That glovebox is one piece of wood.
The shown fotocar is an very early one with the chrome marking in the middle. That was original so.
The one the Hamburger bought from Werner in Austria was a very late one # 5721 !!, but I forgot to take foto's. The openingshandle was different. The shown foto has no openingshandle.

Here is a early dasboard from a mirbach 6.3 with a "Plastic striping"




Autch, took the wrong picture.
Here is the good one for the platsc striping:





Edited by - paul-NL on 11/05/2007 15:30:51
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mtrei

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  15:21:03  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think the 600 might have always had a polished back on the glovebox door.

There is no way that that door in the picture is solid wood, just a very nice veneering job. For starters, the front face is quilted, while the back is birdseye, so they come from completely different parts of the tree.

The car is a later one with the early style chrome strip added during the wood restoration. Note that it has the plastic tray with power window switches, and a gear lever with park at the top.

I also think it's interesting that the car has a stereo radio, but no stereo speaker setup (at least up front).

Edited by - mtrei on 11/05/2007 15:32:28
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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  15:34:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, you are right.

That chrome striping does not match with the windowswitches in the blue interior.

I did not notice that before
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mtrei

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  15:36:02  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The metal strip (aluminum, not actually chrome) was used from the start of W108/109 until 1967, but never on a 6.3. The plastic strip was then used until mid 1969 when they changed to the no strip version.

Here is one of the original factory press photos from the 6.3 launch in 1968.


Edited by - mtrei on 11/05/2007 15:38:54
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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  16:11:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I searched again on internet and I believe it is more:

quilted Honduran Mahogany ..... ????

The difference you noticed on the foto between the front and the backside, was not in the green car. That one has the same front and backside. May the the flashlight made it seem different while taken from a different angle.
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mtrei

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  16:59:20  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
W108/109 cars came with three types of wood. All W108s and those W109s with blue interiors had a light brown French walnut with a pretty smooth grain. Other W109s with non blue interiors had either burl walnut or Macassar ebony.

As with everything else, I suppose anything was possible with a special order, although I am usually suspicious of such explanations.
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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/05/2007 :  17:52:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, I usualy are as suspicious as you, me be a bit extra more, but in this case I was so impressed by that car's orginality I can't imagin it is not factory delivered. Better: I am totaly convinced it was.
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mtrei

USA
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  03:25:41  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's the green interior with similar wood.

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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  04:35:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, that's the car I drove. Marvelous technical feeling, so good !
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mtrei

USA
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Posted - 11/06/2007 :  12:07:07  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paul-NL

Mike, that's the car I drove. Marvelous technical feeling, so good !



As long as it's a cool day. (note, no A/C)
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paul-NL

Netherlands
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Posted - 07/27/2008 :  17:17:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is now clear, that that woodtype is defenitly AHORN, about ten times build in on special Kundenwunsch.


Still unclear to me if it is normal Ahorn or Vogelaugen Ahorn, while one fellow called it Vogelaugen Ahorn, but in which last case it should have pickels in the quirled Ahorn

Edited by - paul-NL on 07/27/2008 17:26:54
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